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#1 Sumodude

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 10:59 AM


 
Lol, items. :P  Seriously though, while 4-player free-for-all matches are not balanced at all (let alone having items on), I understand the need to save time. They only have 2 and a half hours, and I'm sure a lot of that time is reserved for marketing fluff. Hey, at least it's 4-stock matches! And I'm very surprised (and happy) that the Grand Finals are on Battlefield instead of Final Destination. I wonder if someone at Nintendo consulted with the pro community...
 
Whether or not you follow or care about the pro Smash scene, this event is a big deal for two reasons:
 
One, it shows that Nintendo is finally paying attention to the fact that they have one of the deepest competitive franchises in existence (which is also one of the best party games in existence, so putting two and two together should mean that Smash is the most versatile game Nintendo's ever made, eh?)...
 
Two, it shows that they are no longer ignoring the pro community. Anyone who's heard about the EVO fiasco last year or who's watched the Smash documentary knows how passionate (and surprisingly large) this community is.
 
You guys know how I feel about pro Smash. I watch PM and Melee tournaments weekly. And while this isn't set up exactly like a major tournament would be, it's still a big deal. But enough about me... How do you feel about the Smash Bros. Invitational??
 
Below, I will try to breakdown the list of players with my own brief thoughts on the matter. I will try to keep each tidbit short but interesting.
 
Player Lineup Breakdown (with Player Bios):

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Edited by Sumodude, 30 May 2014 - 08:31 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:32 AM

I like the make-out music they've got going when they introduce the GCN adapter. :)

 

Even though I don't know who any of those people are that are playing, it's clear this is a major Good Thing from Nintendo to acknowledge the following and help address even the little issues (wireless lag) that this section has. (I call it a little issue because I'm not a very good smash player, so it's a Moot Moot Meadows point for me). And of course, this gives hope to the GCN VC games.

 

So a question for you Sumo - how impressive is the lineup of players?



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:19 PM

I like the make-out music they've got going when they introduce the GCN adapter. :)

 

Even though I don't know who any of those people are that are playing, it's clear this is a major Good Thing from Nintendo to acknowledge the following and help address even the little issues (wireless lag) that this section has. (I call it a little issue because I'm not a very good smash player, so it's a Moot Moot Meadows point for me). And of course, this gives hope to the GCN VC games.

 

So a question for you Sumo - how impressive is the lineup of players?

Yeah, I found the music hilarious. As in, "Is this actually happening?!" Nintendo clearly knew who they were targeting with that announcement: those who are a little obsessed and believe the GameCube controller is the best ever made. :3

 

I was going to include a breakdown of the player list in the OP, but I suppose I didn't. Eh, I guess I'll do it now...

 

Is the player lineup impressive? Quite so, actually. It's made up mostly of popular Melee players, which is great, but also includes a couple notable Brawl players like Zero and The Rapture. The most important thing to note is that every player is a legitimate pro player. Or, at least, was at some point...

 

Ken and Korean DJ (er... LiquidDJ) were pretty much shoe-ins, as they're some of the more publicly recognized players who still play today. They each have their own episode in the Smash Documentary, and it was smart for Nintendo to capitalize on that. Ken is still considered the King of Smash because of his reign back in the golden era of Melee, and has won more total winnings than any other player. KDJ is also a great player...

 

We also have HugS, who is an old-timey Samus Melee player who's also featured in the doc quite extensively. And Hungrybox, while he doesn't have his own episode in the documentary, is one of the current Elite 5 in Melee and is featured prominently throughout the series (and will get his own segment in the upcoming 10th episode).

 

Probably for PR reasons, we have a couple females. Milktea has technically been retired from Melee for years, but since she was featured in the documentary, her inclusion makes sense. Peachyhime is a Brawl/Melee player who (unsurprisingly) mains Peach. I've heard of Lilo, but I didn't realize she was popular. Maybe she is "for a girl."

 

DJ Nintendo is a very skilled Melee/Brawl Ice Climbers player who's now hitting his prime.

 

PPMD, aka "Dr. Pee Pee", is one of the best Melee players that ever was. Like Hungrybox, he's one of the Elite 5.

 

My favorite member of the lineup is aMSa, who hails from Japan. He's recently made a splash in Melee with his Yoshi, a character who most consider weak. He placed something like 11th or 13th at Apex, a 700-player tournament, this year... With Yoshi. So I have to love him. Also, he doesn't speak fluent English.

 

There's a couple Californian locals in there, Toph and PewPewU, but both are well-known nationally. Toph, interestingly enough, is probably better known as a commentator than a player.

 

And that brings me to the commentators, who Nintendo calls "Announcers". Same difference, I guess. Prog and D1 are the most brilliant, perfect choices. There are no other commentators more pronounced, eloquent, professional and well-known in the Smash community than these two. Prog is featured heavily in the documentary, too.

 

Scar, on the other hand, is very surprising. He's very popular, sure, but only in the Melee circuit. He's been known to say some pretty, erm, negative things about Brawl. He's also known to be rather rambuncious and hyper and loud... On the flipside, he can be professional when he needs to be, so he'll probably be reigned in for this...

 

And there's my "brief" analysis. I excluded a few Brawl players, MacD and Crismas, because I don't really know much about them. I'll add them all to the OP in list form later.



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:12 PM

I might check this out if i'm not doing anything else that night. I'm just glad they're not using boring glory mode except for the final match. If they did fight like that for the entire tournament, i wouldn't even bother.



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:17 PM

I might check this out if i'm not doing anything else that night. I'm just glad they're not using boring glory mode except for the final match. If they did fight like that for the entire tournament, i wouldn't even bother.


Well, it's not really For Glory mode. ;P For Glory is more of an online multiplayer playlist (which is Final Destination, not Battlefield), this is all custom Smashes.

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:48 PM

I updated the first post to include my breakdown of the player lineup! Check it out!

 

I might check this out if i'm not doing anything else that night. I'm just glad they're not using boring glory mode except for the final match. If they did fight like that for the entire tournament, i wouldn't even bother.

 

Well that's nice to hear!  :P Honestly though, if I was Nintendo, this is probably pretty close to how I would run the tournament. They still have to sell the game. They still have to show that the game has mass-market appeal, and that means showing off stages, items, even 4-player matches. I just hope that the Grand Finals match turns out to be really hyped and exciting, and Nintendo sees that there is genuine entertainment value in pro Smash Bros. as a spectator sport.

 

They didn't have to make the Grand Finals be 1-vs.-1, no items, 4-stock, 8-minutes. But they did as a direct homage to the competitive community. I'm hopeful they'll learn a lot about how passionate and fun the Smash community can be and apply this knowledge to future officially-sponsored tournaments.

 

Well, it's not really For Glory mode. ;P For Glory is more of an online multiplayer playlist (which is Final Destination, not Battlefield), this is all custom Smashes.

 

Yeah, exactly. I'm very happy that it's on Battlefield, too. I wonder if this is in result of the outcry over For Glory mode being FD-only, or if it's a separate development. Still, it shows that at least someone at Nintendo doesn't believe the (terribly incorrect) Fox Only, Final Destination stereotype. Battlefield is a much more balanced stage, probably the most balanced stage in the series.


Edited by Sumodude, 29 May 2014 - 07:50 PM.






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